Ice Age 4: Everybody Relies on Raymond   1 comment

“Okay, think, Bart, where have you see Roman numerals before?  I know, Rocky Vee, that was the fifth one.  So, Rocky V plus Rocky II equals Rocky VII, Adrian’s Revenge!” – Bart Simpson

Top Line: Everybody Loves Raymond was a fairly typical family sitcom: the only twist was that they brought in the grandparents more often.  Ice Age 4 is a fairly typical Ice Age movie that has more characters than previous ones, but it’s better than the trailer above would lead you to believe. 

Box Score:

Who (probably) should see this movie: People that have already seen Brave, parents with small children, and people who liked Everybody Loves Raymond and/or the previous three movies. 
Who (probably) should not see this movie: Anyone that is kinda busy this weekend or can’t easily get to a theater and people who have not seen Brave (which is distinctly better).  This will safely keep until DVD sometime around Thanksgiving. 

Three Stars:

  1. Wanda Sykes – Sassy Grandma:
    Is by far the most fun and well written character in the movie.  This may be because she’s the only female character who doesn’t have a love interest.  All the rest of them, even the conflicted villain, fall for somebody.
  2. Peter Dinklage – Villainous Monkey:
    Tyrion’s got a song and everything.  
  3. Dennis Leary – Courageous Saber Tooth Tiger:
    I think he could do this in his sleep, but he does a good job. 

Need to See In Theater (Baseline: 2):

  • +1 (it’s hot out there)
  • +1 (this is the kind of movie that’s typically more fun with an audience)
  • +1 (theater with other kids around might help the wee ones pay attention)
  • +1 (it’s hot out there x2)
  • 1 (but it’ll be even hotter getting there and you probably have A/C or a nice fan at home)
  • 1 (The ending is nothing special, so waiting until home video isn’t going to spoil anything)

Final Score: 4

Need to See Eventually (Baseline: 5):

  • +1 (it’s only 94 minutes)
  • +2 (if “The Longest Daycare” is on the DVD)
  • +1 (Wanda Sykes has the best part)
  • 1 (it’s a third sequel, it ain’t important)

Final Score: 8 (if “The Longest Daycare” is on the DVD), 6 (if it isn’t)

Bechdel (Baseline: 5):

  • +1 (There are a lot of female characters)
  • -3 (Raymond’s daughter and wife do basically nothing but talk about him and the boy his daughter is chasing)
  • -1 (Jennifer Lopez would’ve been much better without the romantic subplot with Dennis Leary)

Final Score: 2

IMDb Sez:


  • Steve Martino:
    Horton Hears a Who (2008)
    Robot (2005 art director)
  • Mike Thurmeier:
    Ice Age 1 (lead animator, additional story)
    Note: First time in the big chair


  • Michael Berg:
    Ice Age 1 (2002)
    Ice Age 3 (2009)
  • Jason Fuchs:
    Rags (2012 TV)
    Note: Was a child actor


  • 7.0/10 from 5,685 users
  • Metascore: 50/100

Rotten Tomatoes Sez:

All Critics:


  • Average Rating: 5.3/10
  • Critic Reviews: 89
  • Fresh: 38 | Rotten: 51

Top Critics:


  • Average Rating: 5.6/10
  • Critic Reviews: 22
  • Fresh: 9 | Rotten: 13



  • Average Rating: 3.7/5 (7.4/10)
  • User Ratings: 27,666


  • The audience is much more on target here.  Sure, it’s a fourth sequel, but it feels like a second sequel (well, except for the overabundance of characters and that weird supernatural twist).
  • Total waste of Patrick Stewart (he had much better lines in Ted)
  • There are two songs, a pirate one in the middle and a friendship one at the end.  Both are pretty good, but neither seems likely headed for “Call Me Maybe” summer fame. 
  • Wanda Sykes doesn’t quite steal the show, but is by far the most fun character. 
  • There are only a couple scenes in the non-3D version that look goofy because they’re supposed to be in 3D. 
  • If you do go to the movies this weekend, even if you’re seeing something else, peek your head into an Ice Age 4 theater about fifteen minutes after the show time and catch the Simpsons short “The Longest Daycare”.  It’s only five minutes long, and it’s much better than Zombie Simpsons.

Bottom Line:

Ice Age 4 is a pretty good movie in which pretty much the same stuff that happened in earlier Ice Age Movies happens.  It’s also regular pretty, though not as pretty as Brave.  Raymond again plays the hero mammoth who hangs out with his buddies, Dennis Leary the prideful cat and John Leguizamo the comedy relief.  It’s the fourth sequel, so Raymond’s got a family by now, and there’s a love interest for Leary (the underused Jennifer Lopez plays the hot girl cat), but it’s a fairly straightforward joke around/action sequence buddy movie once the three of them fall onto a giant iceberg and float off to adventure. 

Sadly, the subplot with Raymond’s wife (Queen Latifah) and daughter (Nicki Minaj) is a boilerplate daddy’s-little-girl-is-growing-up story, with a hunky but non-threatening nogoodnik as her teenage crush and a pack of mean girls to boot.  Even though their world is collapsing around them, Latifah, Minaj and company are never in any immediate danger; all that happens is Minaj’s crush on the mammoth with the spiky hair.  It’s really a waste of a subplot.

WARNING: The comments section here is a spoiler friendly zone.  By reading this with your inner monologue, you have waved any right to bitch about spoilers in perpetuity throughout the universe.

Movies Deemed Demographically and Commercially Similar Enough to Have Trailers Before Ice Age 4:

Rise of the Guardians: Official Trailer 2 – YouTube – This is probably listed on the studio’s balance sheet as “Rise of a Franchise?”. 

Frankenweenie Trailer – YouTube – This trailer promotes Burton as the “DIRECTOR OF ALICE IN WONDERLAND”.  Tim Burton is proud of that movie and wants you to know it. 

‘EPIC’ Official Trailer (2013) [HD] – YouTube – Started out well, but revealed too much. 

Diary of a Wimpy Kid 3 : Dog Days Trailer – YouTube – Fifteen years from now it’ll be “Diary of a Wimpy Kid 6: Reunion”. 

Posted July 13, 2012 by Charlie Sweatpants in Box Score Cinema, The Simpsons

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